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Update Win11 on unsupported hardware

2025-05-02T19:08:18Z

Admin:

Attach latest ISO

Run <code>setup.exe /product server</code> from it

Extreme summary of https://jensd.be/2547/windows/upgrade-to-or-install-windows-11-24h2-on-unsupported-hardware

Other one: <code>setup.exe /Product Server /Compat IgnoreWarning /MigrateDrivers All</code>

From https://www.xda-developers.com/install-windows-11-unsupported-pc/

Set btrfs compression on single folder

2024-11-24T16:23:04Z

Admin: Created page with "e.g. <code>btrfs property set [folder] compression zstd</code>"

e.g. <code>btrfs property set [folder] compression zstd</code>

Main Page

2024-11-24T16:22:23Z

Admin: /* IT things */

== [[Museum|Old tech]] ==
[[File:Pdas.jpg|thumb]]
My collection of stuff, with status, some history and files / repair information when applicable

== Electronics ==
[[Fax wiretapping]]

== Photography ==
This

== IT things ==
[[Random notes]]

[[Virtualize disk with minimal space]]

[[Update Win11 on unsupported hardware]]

[[Set btrfs compression on single folder]]

== RC ==
That

Main Page

2024-11-24T16:22:04Z

Admin:

== [[Museum|Old tech]] ==
[[File:Pdas.jpg|thumb]]
My collection of stuff, with status, some history and files / repair information when applicable

== Electronics ==
[[Fax wiretapping]]

== Photography ==
This

== IT things ==
[[Random notes]]

[[Virtualize disk with minimal space]]

[[Update Win11 on unsupported hardware]]

Set btrfs compression on single folder

== RC ==
That

Update Win11 on unsupported hardware

2024-10-15T19:26:19Z

Admin: Created page with "Attach latest ISO Run <code>setup.exe /product server</code> from it Extreme summary of https://jensd.be/2547/windows/upgrade-to-or-install-windows-11-24h2-on-unsupported-hardware"

Attach latest ISO

Run <code>setup.exe /product server</code> from it

Extreme summary of https://jensd.be/2547/windows/upgrade-to-or-install-windows-11-24h2-on-unsupported-hardware

Main Page

2024-10-15T19:24:11Z

Admin: /* IT things */

Main Page

2024-10-15T19:23:52Z

Admin: /* IT things */

Museum

2024-06-27T18:49:52Z

Admin: /* Others */

Here's my collection of old devices, which apart from the "sad corner" at the bottom are all in fully or mostly working condition. These have been collected over a decade or so as interests (and good deals) come... a minority has been with me from the original purchase.
=== Computers ===

====Laptops====

[[File:Laptops1.jpg|thumb]]
===== Apple =====

* Powerbook 150
* Powerbook 520c
* Powerbook 540c
* [[Powerbook 3400c]]
* Powerbook G3 Wallstreet
* Powerbook G3 Lombard
* Powerbook G4 Titanium
=====Sony=====
*VAIO C1MRX
*VAIO U101
*VAIO UX90
=====IBM=====
*Thinkpad 755Cs
*Thinkpad X21
=====Others=====
*Acer Travelmate 313D
*Dell Inspiron 510m
*HP dv8-1190ez
*Toshiba T3100

==== Ancient machines and toys ====

* Tandy 102
* Epson PX-16
* Epson HX-20
* LWB MS6809
* VTech PreComputer 1000

===PDAs / calculators===
[[File:Pdas.jpg|thumb]]
====Psion====
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Workabout Psion Workabout]
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Siena Psion Siena]
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Series_5mx Psion Series 5mx]
====Palm====
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Palm_Tungsten_T5 Palm Tungsten T5]

*Palm m515
*Palm m500
*Palm m100
*Sony Clié PEG-SJ30

==== Pocket PC ====

* HP iPAQ rx3715
* HP iPAQ hw6515
* HTC Tytn II
* HTC HD2

==== Others ====

* HP 100LX
* HP 200LX
* Sharp PC-1500
* Sharp PC-1350
* Casio PB-100
* Citizen Data Bank MB-280
* Citizen Data Bank MB-300
* Casio SF-7200SY

=== Video/photo equipment ===

* Blaupunkt RTX-260 portable VHS VCR
* Panasonic F2 CCD camera
* Roadstar CTV-510 6" color CRT TV
* Sony EV-DT1 5" Trinitron CRT TV/Video8 deck combo
* JVC HR-C3EG portable VHS-C VCR
* JVC GR-SX1 VHS-C camcorder
* Sony DCR-DVD91E miniDVD camcorder
* Sony Mavica FD200
* Sony DSLR-A350

=== Audio equipment ===
* Sony Discman D-303
* Sony CDP-7F CD player
* Sony MZ-G750 portable Minidisc recorder
* Sony MZ-M10 portable Hi-MD recorder
* Sony MZ-RH10 portable Hi-MD recorder
* Sony MDS-JE640 Hi-Fi MD deck
* Yamaha MD-8 multitrack mixer/MD recorder
* Denon DRW-585 dual cassette deck
* Panasonic RQ-S40V portable cassette player

=== Consoles ===

* N64
* Game Gear
* Game Boy Micro

=== The sad corner ===

* Sony MZ-1 MD deck
* Sony Discman D-121
* Casio TV-1450 portable LCD TV
*

Main Page

2024-06-27T18:46:43Z

Admin: /* Old tech */

Main Page

2024-06-27T18:46:06Z

Admin: /* Museum of old tech */

== O[[Museum|ld tech]] ==
[[File:Pdas.jpg|thumb]]
My collection of stuff, with status, some history and files / repair information when applicable

== Electronics ==
[[Fax wiretapping]]

== Photography ==
This

== IT things ==
[[Random notes]]

[[Virtualize disk with minimal space]]
== RC ==
That

Random notes

2024-06-27T18:35:25Z

Admin: /* Extracting data/audio from a hybrid CD's bin/cue image */

=== Extracting data/audio from a hybrid CD's bin/cue image ===
On linux:

cdemu/gcdemu will allow mounting the image in a way where audio ripping software like Asunder recognises the audio tracks correctly

<code>bchunk</code> allows direct extraction, e.g. <code>bchunk -w image.bin image.cue [basefilename]</code> will create an .iso file with the data contents and .wav files for each audio track.

=== Mounting a LUKS encrypted drive ===
https://askubuntu.com/questions/63594/mount-encrypted-volumes-from-command-line

<code>sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda1 my_encrypted_volume</code>

<code>sudo mount /dev/mapper/my_encrypted_volume /media/my_device</code>

<code>sudo cryptsetup luksClose my_encrypted_volume</code>

==== TRIM USB drives ====
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=2339331&sid=c50844e266deecc9371faae5e6bcea75#p2339331

<code>lsusb</code> to find PID/VID

<code>sudo nano /etc/udev/rules.d/50-usb-ssd-trim.rules</code>

<code>ACTION=="add|change", ATTRS{idVendor}=="174c", ATTRS{idProduct}=="235c", SUBSYSTEM=="scsi_disk", ATTR{provisioning_mode}="unmap"</code> with replaced PID/VID

<code>udevadm control --reload-rules && udevadm trigger</code>

Virtualize disk with minimal space

2022-08-08T10:44:25Z

Admin:

* Clean things up
* Boot from separate media e.g. boot-repair live iso, shrink partition to desired size with gparted
* On other system connect disk, check partition layout with fdisk -l, dd if=source of=file bs=[Units in fdisk] count=[end of last partition +1 to cover last +33 for backup gpt table if gpt] (https://serverfault.com/a/853753 https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=288670#p1745543)
* Boot from separate media with image attached, gparted likely will show unpartitioned
* If GPT disk: use sgdisk -e /dev/disk to recreate backup gpt partition table at end of disk (https://askubuntu.com/a/1370440)
* If wanting to make a sparse qcow2 image:
** Mount image, fill empty space with zeroes with dd if=/dev/zero of=tmpfile, rm tmpfile
** qemu-img convert -f raw -O qcow2 -S 4k [source] [dest]

Virtualize disk with minimal space

2022-08-03T21:48:08Z

Admin: Created page with "* Clean things up * Boot from separate media e.g. boot-repair live iso, shrink partition to desired size with gparted * On other system connect disk, check partition layout w..."

* Clean things up
* Boot from separate media e.g. boot-repair live iso, shrink partition to desired size with gparted
* On other system connect disk, check partition layout with fdisk -l, dd if=source of=file bs=[Units in fdisk] count=[end of last partition +1 to cover last +33 for backup gpt table] (https://serverfault.com/a/853753 https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=288670#p1745543)
* Boot from separate media with image attached, gparted likely will show unpartitioned
* Use sgdisk -e /dev/disk to recreate backup gpt partition table at end of disk (https://askubuntu.com/a/1370440)

Main Page

2022-08-03T21:41:09Z

Admin: /* IT things */

== [[Museum|Museum of old tech]] ==
[[File:Pdas.jpg|thumb]]
My collection of stuff, with status, some history and files / repair information when applicable

== Electronics ==
[[Fax wiretapping]]

== Photography ==
This

== IT things ==
[[Random notes]]

[[Virtualize disk with minimal space]]
== RC ==
That

Museum

2022-05-19T18:02:23Z

Admin:

Here's my collection of old devices, which apart from the "sad corner" at the bottom are all in fully or mostly working condition. These have been collected over a decade or so as interests (and good deals) come... a minority has been with me from the original purchase.
=== Computers ===

====Laptops====

[[File:Laptops1.jpg|thumb|link=https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/File:Laptops1.jpg]]
===== Apple =====

* Powerbook 150
* Powerbook 520c
* Powerbook 540c
* [[Powerbook 3400c]]
* Powerbook G3 Wallstreet
* Powerbook G3 Lombard
* Powerbook G4 Titanium
=====Sony=====
*VAIO C1MRX
*VAIO U101
*VAIO UX90
=====IBM=====
*Thinkpad 755Cs
*Thinkpad X21
=====Others=====
*Acer Travelmate 313D
*Dell Inspiron 510m
*HP dv8-1190ez

==== Ancient machines and toys ====

* Tandy 102
* Epson PX-16
* Epson HX-20
* LWB MS6809
* VTech PreComputer 1000

===PDAs / calculators===
[[File:Pdas.jpg|thumb|link=https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/File:Pdas.jpg]]
====Psion====
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Workabout Psion Workabout]
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Siena Psion Siena]
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Series_5mx Psion Series 5mx]
====Palm====
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Palm_Tungsten_T5 Palm Tungsten T5]

*Palm m515
*Palm m500
*Palm m100
*Sony Clié PEG-SJ30

==== Pocket PC ====

* HP iPAQ rx3715
* HP iPAQ hw6515
* HTC Tytn II
* HTC HD2

==== Others ====

* HP 100LX
* HP 200LX
* Sharp PC-1500
* Sharp PC-1350
* Casio PB-100
* Citizen Data Bank MB-280
* Citizen Data Bank MB-300
* Casio SF-7200SY

=== Video/photo equipment ===

* Blaupunkt RTX-260 portable VHS VCR
* Panasonic F2 CCD camera
* Roadstar CTV-510 6" color CRT TV
* Sony EV-DT1 5" Trinitron CRT TV/Video8 deck combo
* JVC HR-C3EG portable VHS-C VCR
* JVC GR-SX1 VHS-C camcorder
* Sony DCR-DVD91E miniDVD camcorder
* Sony Mavica FD200
* Sony DSLR-A350

=== Audio equipment ===
* Sony Discman D-303
* Sony CDP-7F CD player
* Sony MZ-G750 portable Minidisc recorder
* Sony MZ-M10 portable Hi-MD recorder
* Sony MZ-RH10 portable Hi-MD recorder
* Sony MDS-JE640 Hi-Fi MD deck
* Yamaha MD-8 multitrack mixer/MD recorder
* Denon DRW-585 dual cassette deck
* Panasonic RQ-S40V portable cassette player

=== Consoles ===

* N64
* Game Gear
* Game Boy Micro

=== The sad corner ===

* Sony MZ-1 MD deck
* Sony Discman D-121
* Casio TV-1450 portable LCD TV
*

Powerbook 3400c

2022-05-19T18:01:49Z

Admin:

=== Specs ===

* 240 MHz PowerPC 603ev
* 48MB RAM (16MB onboard + 32MB expansion)
* 8GB CF card as storage
* 20x CD-ROM drive
* Ethernet, no modem

Powerbook 3400c

2022-05-19T17:28:17Z

Admin: Created blank page

Museum

2022-05-10T14:19:17Z

Admin:

Here's my collection of old devices, which apart from the "sad corner" at the bottom are all in fully or mostly working condition. These have been collected over a decade or so as interests (and good deals) come... a minority has been with me from the original purchase.
=== Computers ===

====Laptops====

[[File:Laptops1.jpg|thumb|link=https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/File:Laptops1.jpg]]
===== Apple =====

* Powerbook 150
* Powerbook 520c
* Powerbook 540c
* Powerbook 3400c
* Powerbook G3 Wallstreet
* Powerbook G3 Lombard
* Powerbook G4 Titanium
=====Sony=====
*VAIO C1MRX
*VAIO U101
*VAIO UX90
=====IBM=====
*Thinkpad 755Cs
*Thinkpad X21
=====Others=====
*Acer Travelmate 313D
*Dell Inspiron 510m
*HP dv8-1190ez

==== Ancient machines and toys ====

* Tandy 102
* Epson PX-16
* Epson HX-20
* LWB MS6809
* VTech PreComputer 1000

===PDAs / calculators===
[[File:Pdas.jpg|thumb|link=https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/File:Pdas.jpg]]
====Psion====
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Workabout Psion Workabout]
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Siena Psion Siena]
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Series_5mx Psion Series 5mx]
====Palm====
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Palm_Tungsten_T5 Palm Tungsten T5]

*Palm m515
*Palm m500
*Palm m100
*Sony Clié PEG-SJ30

==== Pocket PC ====

* HP iPAQ rx3715
* HP iPAQ hw6515
* HTC Tytn II
* HTC HD2

==== Others ====

* HP 100LX
* HP 200LX
* Sharp PC-1500
* Sharp PC-1350
* Casio PB-100
* Citizen Data Bank MB-280
* Citizen Data Bank MB-300
* Casio SF-7200SY

=== Video/photo equipment ===

* Blaupunkt RTX-260 portable VHS VCR
* Panasonic F2 CCD camera
* Roadstar CTV-510 6" color CRT TV
* Sony EV-DT1 5" Trinitron CRT TV/Video8 deck combo
* JVC HR-C3EG portable VHS-C VCR
* JVC GR-SX1 VHS-C camcorder
* Sony DCR-DVD91E miniDVD camcorder
* Sony Mavica FD200
* Sony DSLR-A350

=== Audio equipment ===
* Sony Discman D-303
* Sony CDP-7F CD player
* Sony MZ-G750 portable Minidisc recorder
* Sony MZ-M10 portable Hi-MD recorder
* Sony MZ-RH10 portable Hi-MD recorder
* Sony MDS-JE640 Hi-Fi MD deck
* Yamaha MD-8 multitrack mixer/MD recorder
* Denon DRW-585 dual cassette deck
* Panasonic RQ-S40V portable cassette player

=== Consoles ===

* N64
* Game Gear
* Game Boy Micro

=== The sad corner ===

* Sony MZ-1 MD deck
* Sony Discman D-121
* Casio TV-1450 portable LCD TV
*

Museum

2022-05-08T22:14:27Z

Admin:

Here's my collection of old devices, which apart from the "sad corner" at the bottom are all in fully or mostly working condition. These have been collected over a decade or so as interests (and good deals) come... a minority has been with me from the original purchase.
=== Computers ===

====Laptops====

[[File:Laptops1.jpg|thumb|link=https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/File:Laptops1.jpg]]
===== Apple =====

* Powerbook 150
* Powerbook 520c
* Powerbook 540c
* Powerbook 3400c
* Powerbook G3 Wallstreet
* Powerbook G3 Lombard
* Powerbook G4 Titanium
=====Sony=====
*VAIO C1MRX
*VAIO U101
*VAIO UX90
=====IBM=====
*Thinkpad 755Cs
*Thinkpad X21
=====Others=====
*Acer Travelmate 313D
*Dell Inspiron 510m
*HP dv8-1190ez

==== Ancient machines and toys ====

* Tandy 102
* Epson PX-16
* Epson HX-20
* LWB MS6809
* VTech PreComputer 1000

===PDAs / calculators===
[[File:Pdas.jpg|thumb|link=https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/File:Pdas.jpg]]
====Psion====
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Workabout Psion Workabout]
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Siena Psion Siena]
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Series_5mx Psion Series 5mx]
====Palm====
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Palm_Tungsten_T5 Palm Tungsten T5]

*Palm m515
*Palm m500
*Palm m100
*Sony Clié PEG-SJ30

==== Pocket PC ====

* HP iPAQ rx3715
* HP iPAQ hw6515
* HTC Tytn II
* HTC HD2

==== Others ====

* HP 100LX
* HP 200LX
* Sharp PC-1500
* Sharp PC-1350
* Casio PB-100
* Citizen Data Bank MB-280
* Citizen Data Bank MB-300
* Casio SF-7200SY

=== Video/photo equipment ===

* Blaupunkt RTX-260 portable VHS VCR
* Panasonic F2 CCD camera
* Roadstar CTV-510 6" color CRT TV
* Sony EV-DT1 5" Trinitron CRT TV/Video8 deck combo
* JVC HR-C3EG portable VHS-C VCR
* JVC GR-SX1 VHS-C camcorder
* Sony DCR-DVD91E miniDVD camcorder
* Sony Mavica FD200
* Sony DSLR-A350

=== Audio equipment ===
* Sony Discman D-303
* Sony GZ- portable Minidisc recorder
* Sony portable Hi-MD recorder
* Sony MDS-JE640 Hi-Fi MD deck
* Yamaha MD-8 multitrack mixer/MD recorder
* Denon DRW-585 dual cassette deck
* Panasonic RQ-S40V portable cassette player

=== Consoles ===

* N64
* Game Gear
* Game Boy Micro

=== The sad corner ===

* Sony MZ-1 MD deck
* Sony Discman D-121
*

Main Page

2022-05-08T22:05:05Z

Admin:

Main Page

2022-05-08T22:04:44Z

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Random notes

2022-05-08T22:04:25Z

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Random notes

2022-05-08T22:03:32Z

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Fax wiretapping

2022-05-08T22:03:06Z

Admin:

=== Intro ===
[[File:Fax wiretap setup.jpg|thumb|Fax wiretapping setup]]A discussion came up about the common claim that "Fax is insecure", but nobody could initially find actual evidence of it or a way for a mere mortal to turn an audio recording of a fax transmission over a POTS line into the image that was sent using publicly available tools, only "talk to our representative" enterprise solutions that seemed like they might implement decoders.

A litte search subsequently revealed [https://superuser.com/questions/217785/how-to-convert-audio-file-of-fax-transmission-to-image-in-linux this page] that suggested using the <code>fax_decode</code> program from the the <code>spandsp</code> library from the [https://www.soft-switch.org/ soft-switch] project could work and was reported functional using test audio files, those however had the transmit and receive channels separated and only the transmit channel was fed to the program. That's not how a wiretap would come out (both are mixed), so having the needed equipment to run a test it seemed like a fun morning project.

=== Hardware ===
A test setup was made with my fax-capable MFP connected to a Cisco SPA122 ATA that is set to be able to dial to another ATA connected to a Windows XP laptop with built-in modem running the Windows fax console. Faxing from the MFP to the PC (and vice versa) was known to work correctly from previous endeavors, although sometimes needing multiple retries due to packet losses on the VoIP side causing occasional audio drops.
[[File:Fax wiretap setup detail.jpg|thumb|Recorder and tap detail]]
The phone line cable between the PC and ATA (i.e. receiving side) was cut and a very crude tap was made using a 220nF capacitor from each line and fed into a Zoom H6 audio recorder. The fax would still go through, and the entire audio could be recorded in what seemed like a satisfactory manner.

=== Software ===
The spandsp library (<code>spandsp-0.0.6.tar.gz</code>) was downloaded in an ubuntu WSL instance and built following the instructions that include building the test programs:

<code>./configure --enable-tests</code>

<code>make</code>

As expected the configuration step spat out missing dependencies one after the other, after a while the list of things that ended up needed was retrieved with

<code>sudo apt install build-essential libaudiofile-dev libpcap-dev libxml2-dev fftw-dev libsndfile1-dev libtiff-dev xsltproc libtiff-tools netpbm sox</code>

With these installed the library could be built, with the <code>fax_decode</code> program found in the <code>tests</code> subdirectory.

The recorded file needs to be converted to 8kHz 16-bit mono PCM, and can then be processed simply with

<code>fax_decode file.wav</code>

And... yes! A <code>fax_decode.tif</code> file was now found in the folder, with our glorious test fax extracted from the audio.

=== Results ===
[[File:Fax decode9.png|thumb|The decoded fax (converted to png)]]A folder can be found [https://cloud.thatoldtech.net/index.php/s/AqZoFmbz5jniDEs here] with:

* The original audio recording for 2 transmissions
* The 8kHz version of each of those
* The decoded images for them
* 2 faxes as received by the Windows fax console for quality comparison (yes it's just the same) - they are not of the same transmissions as it turns out sometimes the fax console would give up reception due to an interruption but the sender continued transmission, resulting in the decoding from the tap actually being successful while the "legit" reception wasn't...

Fax wiretapping

2022-05-08T22:01:04Z

Admin:

=== Intro ===
[[File:Fax wiretap setup.jpg|thumb|Fax wiretapping setup]]A discussion came up about the common claim that "Fax is insecure", but nobody could initially find actual evidence of it or a way for a mere mortal to turn an audio recording of a fax transmission into the image that was sent using publicly available tools, only "talk to our representative" enterprise solutions that seemed like they might implement decoders.

A litte search subsequently revealed [https://superuser.com/questions/217785/how-to-convert-audio-file-of-fax-transmission-to-image-in-linux this page] that suggested using the <code>fax_decode</code> program from the the <code>spandsp</code> library from the [https://www.soft-switch.org/ soft-switch] project could work and was reported functional using test audio files, those however had the transmit and receive channels separated and only the transmit channel was fed to the program. That's not how a wiretap would come out (both are mixed), so having the needed equipment to run a test it seemed like a fun morning project.

=== Hardware ===
A test setup was made with my fax-capable MFP connected to a Cisco SPA122 ATA that is set to be able to dial to another one connected to a Windows XP laptop with built-in modem running the Windows fax console. Faxing from the MFP to the PC (and vice versa) was known to work correctly from previous endeavors, although sometimes needing multiple retries due to packet losses on the VoIP side causing occasional audio drops.
[[File:Fax wiretap setup detail.jpg|thumb|Recorder and tap detail]]
The phone line cable between the PC and ATA was cut and a very crude tap was made using a 220nF capacitor from each line and fed into a Zoom H6 audio recorder. The fax would still go through, and the entire audio could be recorded in what seemed like a satisfactory manner.

=== Software ===
The spandsp library (<code>spandsp-0.0.6.tar.gz</code>) was downloaded under an ubuntu WSL instance and built following the instructions

<code>./configure --enable-tests</code>

<code>make</code>

As expected the configuration step spat out missing dependencies one after the other, after a while the list of things that ended up needed was retrieved with

<code>sudo apt install build-essential libaudiofile-dev libpcap-dev libxml2-dev fftw-dev libsndfile1-dev libtiff-dev xsltproc libtiff-tools netpbm sox</code>

With these installed the library could be built, with the <code>fax_decode</code> program found in the <code>tests</code> subdirectory.

The recorded file needs to be converted to 8kHz 16-bit mono PCM, and can then be processed simply with

<code>fax_decode file.wav</code>

And... yes! A <code>fax_decode.tif</code> file was now found in the folder, with our glorious test fax extracted from the audio.

=== Results ===
[[File:Fax decode9.png|thumb|The decoded fax (converted to png)]]A folder can be found [https://cloud.thatoldtech.net/index.php/s/AqZoFmbz5jniDEs here] with:

* The original audio recording for 2 transmissions
* The 8kHz version of each of those
* The decoded images for them
* 2 faxes as received by the Windows fax console for quality comparison (yes it's just the same) - they are not of the same transmissions as it turns out sometimes the fax console would give up reception due to an interruption but the sender continued transmission, resulting in the decoding from the tap actually being successful while the "legit" reception wasn't...

Fax wiretapping

2022-05-08T22:00:52Z

Admin:

=== Intro ===
[[File:Fax wiretap setup.jpg|thumb|Fax wiretapping setup]]A discussion came up about the common claim that "Fax is insecure", but nobody could initially find actual evidence of it or a way for a mere mortal to turn an audio recording of a fax transmission into the image that was sent using publicly available tools, only "talk to our representative" enterprise solutions that seemed like they might implement decoders.

A litte search subsequently revealed [https://superuser.com/questions/217785/how-to-convert-audio-file-of-fax-transmission-to-image-in-linux this page] that suggested using the <code>fax_decode</code> program from the the spandsp library from the [https://www.soft-switch.org/ soft-switch] project could work and was reported functional using test audio files, those however had the transmit and receive channels separated and only the transmit channel was fed to the program. That's not how a wiretap would come out (both are mixed), so having the needed equipment to run a test it seemed like a fun morning project.

=== Hardware ===
A test setup was made with my fax-capable MFP connected to a Cisco SPA122 ATA that is set to be able to dial to another one connected to a Windows XP laptop with built-in modem running the Windows fax console. Faxing from the MFP to the PC (and vice versa) was known to work correctly from previous endeavors, although sometimes needing multiple retries due to packet losses on the VoIP side causing occasional audio drops.
[[File:Fax wiretap setup detail.jpg|thumb|Recorder and tap detail]]
The phone line cable between the PC and ATA was cut and a very crude tap was made using a 220nF capacitor from each line and fed into a Zoom H6 audio recorder. The fax would still go through, and the entire audio could be recorded in what seemed like a satisfactory manner.

=== Software ===
The spandsp library (<code>spandsp-0.0.6.tar.gz</code>) was downloaded under an ubuntu WSL instance and built following the instructions

<code>./configure --enable-tests</code>

<code>make</code>

As expected the configuration step spat out missing dependencies one after the other, after a while the list of things that ended up needed was retrieved with

<code>sudo apt install build-essential libaudiofile-dev libpcap-dev libxml2-dev fftw-dev libsndfile1-dev libtiff-dev xsltproc libtiff-tools netpbm sox</code>

With these installed the library could be built, with the <code>fax_decode</code> program found in the <code>tests</code> subdirectory.

The recorded file needs to be converted to 8kHz 16-bit mono PCM, and can then be processed simply with

<code>fax_decode file.wav</code>

And... yes! A <code>fax_decode.tif</code> file was now found in the folder, with our glorious test fax extracted from the audio.

=== Results ===
[[File:Fax decode9.png|thumb|The decoded fax (converted to png)]]A folder can be found [https://cloud.thatoldtech.net/index.php/s/AqZoFmbz5jniDEs here] with:

* The original audio recording for 2 transmissions
* The 8kHz version of each of those
* The decoded images for them
* 2 faxes as received by the Windows fax console for quality comparison (yes it's just the same) - they are not of the same transmissions as it turns out sometimes the fax console would give up reception due to an interruption but the sender continued transmission, resulting in the decoding from the tap actually being successful while the "legit" reception wasn't...

Fax wiretapping

2022-05-08T21:59:48Z

Admin:

=== Intro ===
[[File:Fax wiretap setup.jpg|thumb|Fax wiretapping setup]]A discussion came up about the common claim that "Fax is insecure", but nobody could initially find actual evidence of it or a way for a mere mortal to turn an audio recording of a fax transmission into the image that was sent using publicly available tools, only "talk to our representative" enterprise solutions that might implement decoders.

A litte search subsequently revealed [https://superuser.com/questions/217785/how-to-convert-audio-file-of-fax-transmission-to-image-in-linux this page] that suggested using the <code>fax_decode</code> program from the the spandsp library from the [https://www.soft-switch.org/ soft-switch] project could work and was reported functional using test audio files, those however had the transmit and receive channels separated and only the transmit channel was fed to the program. That's not how a wiretap would come out (both are mixed), so having the needed equipment to run a test it seemed like a fun morning project.

=== Hardware ===
A test setup was made with my fax-capable MFP connected to a Cisco SPA122 ATA that is set to be able to dial to another one connected to a Windows XP laptop with built-in modem running the Windows fax console. Faxing from the MFP to the PC (and vice versa) was known to work correctly from previous endeavors, although sometimes needing multiple retries due to packet losses on the VoIP side causing occasional audio drops.
[[File:Fax wiretap setup detail.jpg|thumb|Recorder and tap detail]]
The phone line cable between the PC and ATA was cut and a very crude tap was made using a 220nF capacitor from each line and fed into a Zoom H6 audio recorder. The fax would still go through, and the entire audio could be recorded in what seemed like a satisfactory manner.

=== Software ===
The spandsp library (<code>spandsp-0.0.6.tar.gz</code>) was downloaded under an ubuntu WSL instance and built following the instructions

<code>./configure --enable-tests</code>

<code>make</code>

As expected the configuration step spat out missing dependencies one after the other, after a while the list of things that ended up needed was retrieved with

<code>sudo apt install build-essential libaudiofile-dev libpcap-dev libxml2-dev fftw-dev libsndfile1-dev libtiff-dev xsltproc libtiff-tools netpbm sox</code>

With these installed the library could be built, with the <code>fax_decode</code> program found in the <code>tests</code> subdirectory.

The recorded file needs to be converted to 8kHz 16-bit mono PCM, and can then be processed simply with

<code>fax_decode file.wav</code>

And... yes! A <code>fax_decode.tif</code> file was now found in the folder, with our glorious test fax extracted from the audio.

=== Results ===
[[File:Fax decode9.png|thumb|The decoded fax (converted to png)]]A folder can be found [https://cloud.thatoldtech.net/index.php/s/AqZoFmbz5jniDEs here] with:

* The original audio recording for 2 transmissions
* The 8kHz version of each of those
* The decoded images for them
* 2 faxes as received by the Windows fax console for quality comparison (yes it's just the same) - they are not of the same transmissions as it turns out sometimes the fax console would give up reception due to an interruption but the sender continued transmission, resulting in the decoding from the tap actually being successful while the "legit" reception wasn't...

Fax wiretapping

2022-05-08T21:53:41Z

Admin:

=== Intro ===
[[File:Fax wiretap setup.jpg|thumb|Fax wiretapping setup]]A discussion came up about the common claim that "Fax is insecure", but nobody could initially find actual evidence of it or a way for a mere mortal to turn an audio recording of a fax transmission into the image that was sent using publicly available tools, only "talk to our representative" enterprise solutions that might implement decoders.

A litte search subsequently revealed [https://superuser.com/questions/217785/how-to-convert-audio-file-of-fax-transmission-to-image-in-linux this page] that suggested using the <code>fax_decode</code> program from the the spandsp library from the [https://www.soft-switch.org/ soft-switch] project could work and was reported functional using test audio files, those however had the transmit and receive channels separated and only the transmit channel was fed to the program. That's not how a wiretap would come out (both are mixed), so having the needed equipment to run a test it seemed like a fun morning project.

=== Hardware ===
A test setup was made with my fax-capable MFP connected to a Cisco SPA122 ATA that is set to be able to dial to another one connected to a Windows XP laptop with built-in modem running the Windows fax console. Faxing from the MFP to the PC (and vice versa) was known to work correctly from previous endeavors, although sometimes needing multiple retries due to packet losses on the VoIP side causing occasional audio drops.
[[File:Fax wiretap setup detail.jpg|thumb|Recorder and tap detail]]
The phone line cable between the PC and ATA was cut and a very crude tap was made using a 220nF capacitor from each line and fed into a Zoom H6 audio recorder. The fax would still go through, and the entire audio could be recorded in what seemed like a satisfactory manner.

=== Software ===
The spandsp library (<code>spandsp-0.0.6.tar.gz</code>) was downloaded under an ubuntu WSL instance and built following the instructions

<code>./configure --enable-tests</code>

<code>make</code>

As expected the configuration step spat out missing dependencies one after the other, after a while the list of things that ended up needed was retrieved with

<code>sudo apt install build-essential libaudiofile-dev libpcap-dev libxml2-dev fftw-dev libsndfile1-dev libtiff-dev xsltproc libtiff-tools netpbm sox</code>

With these installed the library could be built, with the <code>fax_decode</code> program found in the <code>tests</code> subdirectory.

The recorded file needs to be converted to 8kHz 16-bit mono PCM, and can then be processed simply with

<code>fax_decode file.wav</code>

And... yes! A <code>fax_decode.tif</code> file was now found in the folder, with our glorious test fax extracted from the audio.

[[File:Fax decode9.png|thumb|The decoded fax (converted to png)]]

File:Fax decode9.png

2022-05-08T21:53:17Z

Admin:

Wiretapped fax 9

Fax wiretapping

2022-05-08T21:49:48Z

Admin:

=== Intro ===
[[File:Fax wiretap setup.jpg|thumb|Fax wiretapping setup]]A discussion came up about the common claim that "Fax is insecure", but nobody could initially find actual evidence of it or a way for a mere mortal to turn an audio recording of a fax transmission into the image that was sent using publicly available tools, only "talk to our representative" enterprise solutions that might implement decoders.

A litte search subsequently revealed [https://superuser.com/questions/217785/how-to-convert-audio-file-of-fax-transmission-to-image-in-linux this page] that suggested using the <code>fax_decode</code> program from the the spandsp library from the [https://www.soft-switch.org/ soft-switch] project could work and was reported functional using test audio files, those however had the transmit and receive channels separated and only the transmit channel was fed to the program. That's not how a wiretap would come out (both are mixed), so having the needed equipment to run a test it seemed like a fun morning project.

=== Hardware ===
A test setup was made with my fax-capable MFP connected to a Cisco SPA122 ATA that is set to be able to dial to another one connected to a Windows XP laptop with built-in modem running the Windows fax console. Faxing from the MFP to the PC (and vice versa) was known to work correctly from previous endeavors, although sometimes needing multiple retries due to packet losses on the VoIP side causing occasional audio drops.
[[File:Fax wiretap setup detail.jpg|thumb|Recorder and tap detail]]
The phone line cable between the PC and ATA was cut and a very crude tap was made using a 220nF capacitor from each line and fed into a Zoom H6 audio recorder. The fax would still go through, and the entire audio could be recorded in what seemed like a satisfactory manner.

=== Software ===
The spandsp library (<code>spandsp-0.0.6.tar.gz</code>) was downloaded under an ubuntu WSL instance and built following the instructions

<code>./configure --enable-tests</code>

<code>make</code>

As expected the configuration step spat out missing dependencies one after the other, after a while the list of things that ended up needed was retrieved with

<code>sudo apt install build-essential libaudiofile-dev libpcap-dev libxml2-dev fftw-dev libsndfile1-dev libtiff-dev xsltproc libtiff-tools netpbm sox</code>

With these installed the library could be built, with the <code>fax_decode</code> program found in the <code>tests</code> subdirectory.

The recorded file needs to be converted to 8kHz 16-bit mono PCM, and can then be processed simply with

<code>fax_decode file.wav</code>

File:Fax wiretap setup detail.jpg

2022-05-08T21:40:18Z

Admin:

Fax wiretap setup detail

Fax wiretapping

2022-05-08T21:39:43Z

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A discussion came up about the common claim that "Fax is insecure", but nobody could initially find actual evidence of it or a way for a mere mortal to turn an audio recording of a fax transmission into the image that was sent using publicly available tools, only "talk to our representative" enterprise solutions that might implement decoders.

A litte search subsequently revealed [https://superuser.com/questions/217785/how-to-convert-audio-file-of-fax-transmission-to-image-in-linux this page] that suggested using the <code>fax_decode</code> program from the the spandsp library from the [https://www.soft-switch.org/ soft-switch] project could work and was reported functional using test audio files, those however had the transmit and receive channels separated and only the transmit channel was fed to the program. That's not how a wiretap would come out (both are mixed), so having the needed equipment to run a test it seemed like a fun morning project.

A test setup was made with my fax-capable MFP connected to a Cisco SPA122 ATA that is set to be able to dial to another one connected to a Windows XP laptop with built-in modem running the Windows fax console. Faxing from the MFP to the PC (and vice versa) was known to work correctly from previous endeavors.
[[File:Fax wiretap setup.jpg|thumb|Fax wiretapping setup]]
The phone line cable between the PC and ATA was cut and a very crude tap was made using a 220nF capacitor from each line and fed into a Zoom H6 audio recorder

File:Fax wiretap setup.jpg

2022-05-08T21:39:04Z

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Fax wiretap setup

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2022-05-08T21:20:12Z

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== [[Museum|Museum of old tech]] ==
[[File:Pdas.jpg|thumb]]
My collection of stuff, with status, some history and files / repair information when applicable

== [[Electronics]] ==
[[Fax wiretapping]]

== [[Photography]] ==
This

== [[IT things]] ==
[[Random notes]]

== [[RC]] ==
That

Random notes

2022-05-08T21:19:31Z

Admin:

=== Extracting data/audio from a hybrid CD's bin/cue image ===
On linux:

cdemu/gcdemu will allow mounting the image in a way where ripping software like Asunder recognises the audio tracks correctly

<code>bchunk</code> allows direct extraction, e.g. <code>bchunk -w image.bin image.cue [basefilename]</code>

Random notes

2022-05-08T21:18:41Z

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=== Extracting data/audio from a hybrid CD's bin/cue image ===
On linux cdemu/gcdemu will allow mounting the image in a way where ripping software like Asunder recognises the audio tracks correctly

bchunk allows direct extraction, e.g. `bchunk -w image.bin image.cue [basefilename]`

Main Page

2022-05-08T21:14:22Z

Admin:

== [[Museum|Museum of old tech]] ==
[[File:Pdas.jpg|thumb]]
My collection of stuff, with status, some history and files / repair information when applicable

== [[Electronics]] ==
This

== [[Photography]] ==
This

== [[IT things]] ==
[[Random notes]]

== [[RC]] ==
That

Museum

2022-05-08T18:39:36Z

Admin:

Here's my collection of old devices, which apart from the "sad corner" at the bottom are all in fully or mostly working condition. These have been collected over a decade or so as interests (and good deals) come... a minority has been with me from the original purchase.
=== Computers ===

====Laptops====

[[File:Laptops1.jpg|thumb|link=https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/File:Laptops1.jpg]]
===== Apple =====

* Powerbook 150
* Powerbook 520c
* Powerbook 540c
* Powerbook 3400c
* Powerbook G3 Wallstreet
* Powerbook G3 Lombard
* Powerbook G4 Titanium
=====Sony=====
*VAIO C1MRX
*VAIO U101
*VAIO UX90
=====IBM=====
*Thinkpad 755Cs
*Thinkpad X21
=====Others=====
*Acer Travelmate 313D
*Dell Inspiron 510m
*HP dv8-1190ez

==== Ancient machines and toys ====

* Tandy 102
* Epson PX-16
* Epson HX-20
* LWB MS6809
* VTech PreComputer 1000

===PDAs / calculators===
[[File:Pdas.jpg|thumb|link=https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/File:Pdas.jpg]]
====Psion====
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Workabout Psion Workabout]
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Siena Psion Siena]
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Series_5mx Psion Series 5mx]
====Palm====
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Palm_Tungsten_T5 Palm Tungsten T5]

*Palm m515
*Palm m500
*Palm m100
*Sony Clié PEG-SJ30

==== Pocket PC ====

* HP iPAQ rx3715
* HP iPAQ hw6515
* HTC Tytn II
* HTC HD2

==== Others ====

* HP 100LX
* HP 200LX
* Sharp PC-1500
* Sharp PC-1350
* Casio PB-100
* Citizen Data Bank MB-280
* Citizen Data Bank MB-300
* Casio SF-7200SY

=== Video/photo equipment ===

* Blaupunkt RTX-260 portable VHS VCR
* Panasonic F2 CCD camera
* Roadstar CTV-510 6" color CRT TV
* Sony EV-DT1 5" Trinitron CRT TV/Video8 deck combo
* JVC HR-C3EG portable VHS-C VCR
* JVC GR-SX1 VHS-C camcorder
* Sony Mavica FD200
* Sony DSLR-A350

=== Audio equipment ===
* Sony Discman D-303
* Sony GZ- portable Minidisc recorder
* Sony portable Hi-MD recorder
* Sony MDS-JE640 Hi-Fi MD deck
* Yamaha MD-8 multitrack mixer/MD recorder
* Denon DRW-585 dual cassette deck
* Panasonic RQ-S40V portable cassette player

=== Consoles ===

* N64
* Game Gear
* Game Boy Micro

=== The sad corner ===

* Sony MZ-1 MD deck
* Sony Discman D-121
*

Main Page

2022-05-08T18:27:22Z

Admin:

== [[Museum|Museum of old tech]] ==
[[File:Pdas.jpg|thumb]]
My collection of stuff, with status, some history and files / repair information when applicable

== [[Electronics]] ==
This

== [[Photography]] ==
This

== [[IT things]] ==
That

== [[RC]] ==
That

Main Page

2022-05-08T18:27:13Z

Admin:

== [[Museum|Museum of old tech]] ==
[[File:Pdas.jpg|thumb]]
My collection of stuff, with status, some history and files / repair information when applicable

== [[Electronics]] ==
This

== [[Photography]] ==
This

== [[IT things]] ==
This

== [[RC]] ==
That

Museum

2022-05-08T18:23:50Z

Admin:

Here's my collection of old devices, which apart from the "sad corner" at the bottom are all in fully or mostly working condition. These have been collected over a decade or so as interests (and good deals) come... a minority has been with me from the original purchase.
=== Computers ===

====Laptops====

[[File:Laptops1.jpg|thumb|link=https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/File:Laptops1.jpg]]
===== Apple =====

* Powerbook 150
* Powerbook 520c
* Powerbook 540c
* Powerbook 3400c
* Powerbook G3 Wallstreet
* Powerbook G3 Lombard
* Powerbook G4 Titanium
=====Sony=====
*VAIO C1MRX
*VAIO U101
*VAIO UX90
=====IBM=====
*Thinkpad 755Cs
*Thinkpad X21
=====Others=====
*Acer Travelmate 313D
*Dell Inspiron 510m
*HP dv8-1190ez

==== Ancient machines and toys ====

* Tandy 102
* Epson PX-16
* Epson HX-20
* VTech PreComputer 1000

===PDAs / calculators===
[[File:Pdas.jpg|thumb|link=https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/File:Pdas.jpg]]
====Psion====
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Workabout Psion Workabout]
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Siena Psion Siena]
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Series_5mx Psion Series 5mx]
====Palm====
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Palm_Tungsten_T5 Palm Tungsten T5]

*Palm m515
*Palm m500
*Palm m100
*Sony Clié PEG-SJ30

==== Pocket PC ====

* HP iPAQ rx3715
* HP iPAQ hw6515
* HTC Tytn II
* HTC HD2

==== Others ====

* HP 100LX
* HP 200LX
* Sharp PC-1500
* Sharp PC-1350
* Casio PB-100
* Citizen Data Bank MB-280
* Citizen Data Bank MB-300
* Casio SF-7200SY

=== Video/photo equipment ===

* Blaupunkt RTX-260 portable VHS VCR
* Panasonic F2 CCD camera
* Roadstar CTV-510 6" color CRT TV
* Sony EV-DT1 5" Trinitron CRT TV/Video8 deck combo
* JVC HR-C3EG portable VHS-C VCR
* JVC GR-SX1 VHS-C camcorder
* Sony Mavica FD200
* Sony DSLR-A350

=== Audio equipment ===
* Sony Discman D-303
* Sony GZ- portable Minidisc recorder
* Sony portable Hi-MD recorder
* Sony MDS-JE640 Hi-Fi MD deck
* Yamaha MD-8 multitrack mixer/MD recorder
* Denon DRW-585 dual cassette deck
* Panasonic RQ-S40V portable cassette player

=== Consoles ===

* N64
* Game Gear
* Game Boy Micro

=== The sad corner ===

* Sony MZ-1 MD deck
* Sony Discman D-121
*

Main Page

2022-05-08T18:20:58Z

Admin:

== [[Museum|Museum of old tech]] ==
[[File:Pdas.jpg|thumb]]
My collection of stuff, with status, some history and files / repair information when applicable

== [[Electronics]] ==
This

== [[Photography]] ==
This

== [[RC]] ==
That

Main Page

2022-05-08T18:19:32Z

Admin:

== [[Museum|Museum of old tech]] ==
[[File:Pdas.jpg|thumb]]
My collection of stuff

== [[Electronics]] ==
This

== [[Photography]] ==
This

== [[RC]] ==
That

Main Page

2022-05-08T18:19:17Z

Admin:

== [[Museum]] ==
[[File:Pdas.jpg|thumb]]
My collection of stuff

== [[Electronics]] ==
This

== [[Photography]] ==
This

== [[RC]] ==
That

Main Page

2022-05-08T18:18:55Z

Admin:

== [[Museum of old tech]] ==
[[File:Pdas.jpg|thumb]]
My collection of stuff

== [[Electronics]] ==
This

== [[Photography]] ==
This

== [[RC]] ==
That

Museum

2022-05-08T18:14:27Z

Admin:

Here's my collection of old devices, which apart from the "sad corner" at the bottom are all in fully or mostly working condition. These have been collected over a decade or so as interests (and good deals) come... a minority has been with me from the original purchase.
=== Computers ===

====Laptops====

[[File:Laptops1.jpg|thumb|link=https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/File:Laptops1.jpg]]
===== Apple =====

* Powerbook 150
* Powerbook 520c
* Powerbook 540c
* Powerbook 3400c
* Powerbook G3 Wallstreet
* Powerbook G3 Lombard
* Powerbook G4 Titanium
=====Sony=====
*VAIO C1MRX
*VAIO U101
*VAIO UX90
=====IBM=====
*Thinkpad 755Cs
*Thinkpad X21
=====Others=====
*Acer Travelmate 313D
*Dell Inspiron 510m
*HP dv8-1190ez

==== Ancient machines and toys ====

* Tandy 102
* Epson PX-16
* Epson HX-20
* VTech PreComputer 1000

===PDAs / calculators===
[[File:Pdas.jpg|thumb|link=https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/File:Pdas.jpg]]
====Psion====
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Workabout Psion Workabout]
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Siena Psion Siena]
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Series_5mx Psion Series 5mx]
====Palm====
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Palm_Tungsten_T5 Palm Tungsten T5]

*Palm m515
*Palm m500
*Palm m100
*Sony Clié PEG-SJ30

==== Pocket PC ====

* HP ??
* HP ??
* HTC Tytn II
* HTC HD2

==== Others ====

* HP 100LX
* HP 200LX
* Sharp PC-1500
* Sharp PC-1350
* Casio PB-100
* Citizen Data Bank MB-280
* Citizen Data Bank MB-300
* Casio SF-7200SY

=== Video/photo equipment ===

* Blaupunkt RTX-260 portable VHS VCR
* Panasonic F2 CCD camera
* Roadstar CTV-510 6" color CRT TV
* Sony EV-DT1 5" Trinitron CRT TV/Video8 deck combo
* JVC HR-C3EG portable VHS-C VCR
* JVC GR-SX1 VHS-C camcorder
* Sony Mavica FD200
* Sony DSLR-A350

=== Audio equipment ===
* Sony Discman D-303
* Sony GZ- portable Minidisc recorder
* Sony portable Hi-MD recorder
* Sony MDS-JE640 Hi-Fi MD deck
* Yamaha MD-8 multitrack mixer/MD recorder
* Denon DRW-585 dual cassette deck
* Panasonic RQ-S40V portable cassette player

=== Consoles ===

* N64
* Game Gear
* Game Boy Micro

=== The sad corner ===

* Sony MZ-1 MD deck
* Sony Discman D-121
*

Museum

2022-05-08T18:14:01Z

Admin:

Here's my collection of old devices, which apart from the "sad corner" below are all in fully or mostly working condition. These have been collected over a decade or so as interests (and good deals) come... a minority has been with me from the original purchase.
=== Computers ===

====Laptops====

[[File:Laptops1.jpg|thumb|link=https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/File:Laptops1.jpg]]
===== Apple =====

* Powerbook 150
* Powerbook 520c
* Powerbook 540c
* Powerbook 3400c
* Powerbook G3 Wallstreet
* Powerbook G3 Lombard
* Powerbook G4 Titanium
=====Sony=====
*VAIO C1MRX
*VAIO U101
*VAIO UX90
=====IBM=====
*Thinkpad 755Cs
*Thinkpad X21
=====Others=====
*Acer Travelmate 313D
*Dell Inspiron 510m
*HP dv8-1190ez

==== Ancient machines and toys ====

* Tandy 102
* Epson PX-16
* Epson HX-20
* VTech PreComputer 1000

===PDAs / calculators===
[[File:Pdas.jpg|thumb|link=https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/File:Pdas.jpg]]
====Psion====
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Workabout Psion Workabout]
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Siena Psion Siena]
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Series_5mx Psion Series 5mx]
====Palm====
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Palm_Tungsten_T5 Palm Tungsten T5]

*Palm m515
*Palm m500
*Palm m100
*Sony Clié PEG-SJ30

==== Pocket PC ====

* HP ??
* HP ??
* HTC Tytn II
* HTC HD2

==== Others ====

* HP 100LX
* HP 200LX
* Sharp PC-1500
* Sharp PC-1350
* Casio PB-100
* Citizen Data Bank MB-280
* Citizen Data Bank MB-300
* Casio SF-7200SY

=== Video/photo equipment ===

* Blaupunkt RTX-260 portable VHS VCR
* Panasonic F2 CCD camera
* Roadstar CTV-510 6" color CRT TV
* Sony EV-DT1 5" Trinitron CRT TV/Video8 deck combo
* JVC HR-C3EG portable VHS-C VCR
* JVC GR-SX1 VHS-C camcorder
* Sony Mavica FD200
* Sony DSLR-A350

=== Audio equipment ===
* Sony Discman D-303
* Sony GZ- portable Minidisc recorder
* Sony portable Hi-MD recorder
* Sony MDS-JE640 Hi-Fi MD deck
* Yamaha MD-8 multitrack mixer/MD recorder
* Denon DRW-585 dual cassette deck
* Panasonic RQ-S40V portable cassette player

=== Consoles ===

* N64
* Game Gear
* Game Boy Micro

=== The sad corner ===

* Sony MZ-1 MD deck
* Sony Discman D-121
*

Museum

2022-05-08T18:13:22Z

Admin:

Here's my collection of old devices, which apart from the "sad corner" below are all in fully or mostly working condition. These have been collected over a decade or so as interests (and good deals) come... a minority has been with me from the original purchase.[[File:Pdas.jpg|thumb|link=https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/File:Pdas.jpg]]

=== Computers ===

====Laptops====

===== Apple =====

* Powerbook 150
* Powerbook 520c
* Powerbook 540c
* Powerbook 3400c
* Powerbook G3 Wallstreet
* Powerbook G3 Lombard
* Powerbook G4 Titanium

[[File:Laptops1.jpg|thumb|link=https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/File:Laptops1.jpg]]
=====Sony=====
*VAIO C1MRX
*VAIO U101
*VAIO UX90
=====IBM=====
*Thinkpad 755Cs
*Thinkpad X21
=====Others=====
*Acer Travelmate 313D
*Dell Inspiron 510m
*HP dv8-1190ez

==== Ancient machines and toys ====

* Tandy 102
* Epson PX-16
* Epson HX-20
* VTech PreComputer 1000

===PDAs / calculators===
====Psion====
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Workabout Psion Workabout]
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Siena Psion Siena]
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Series_5mx Psion Series 5mx]
====Palm====
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Palm_Tungsten_T5 Palm Tungsten T5]

*Palm m515
*Palm m500
*Palm m100
*Sony Clié PEG-SJ30

==== Pocket PC ====

* HP ??
* HP ??
* HTC Tytn II
* HTC HD2

==== Others ====

* HP 100LX
* HP 200LX
* Sharp PC-1500
* Sharp PC-1350
* Casio PB-100
* Citizen Data Bank MB-280
* Citizen Data Bank MB-300
* Casio SF-7200SY

=== Video/photo equipment ===

* Blaupunkt RTX-260 portable VHS VCR
* Panasonic F2 CCD camera
* Roadstar CTV-510 6" color CRT TV
* Sony EV-DT1 5" Trinitron CRT TV/Video8 deck combo
* JVC HR-C3EG portable VHS-C VCR
* JVC GR-SX1 VHS-C camcorder
* Sony Mavica FD200
* Sony DSLR-A350

=== Audio equipment ===
* Sony Discman D-303
* Sony GZ- portable Minidisc recorder
* Sony portable Hi-MD recorder
* Sony MDS-JE640 Hi-Fi MD deck
* Yamaha MD-8 multitrack mixer/MD recorder
* Denon DRW-585 dual cassette deck
* Panasonic RQ-S40V portable cassette player

=== Consoles ===

* N64
* Game Gear
* Game Boy Micro

=== The sad corner ===

* Sony MZ-1 MD deck
* Sony Discman D-121
*

Museum

2022-05-08T18:12:06Z

Admin:

Here's my collection of old devices, which apart from the "sad corner" below are all in fully or mostly working condition. These have been collected over a decade or so as interests (and good deals) come... a minority has been with me from the original purchase.[[File:Pdas.jpg|thumb|link=https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/File:Pdas.jpg]]

=== Computers ===

====Laptops====

===== Apple =====

* Powerbook 150
* Powerbook 520c
* Powerbook 540c
* Powerbook 3400c
* Powerbook G3 Wallstreet
* Powerbook G3 Lombard
* Powerbook G4 Titanium

[[File:Laptops1.jpg|thumb|link=https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/File:Laptops1.jpg]]
=====Sony=====
*C1
*U101
*UX90
=====IBM=====
*755Cs
*X21
=====Others=====
*Acer Travelmate 313D
*Dell Inspiron 510m
*HP dv8-1190ez

==== Ancient machines and toys ====

* Tandy 102
* Epson PX-16
* Epson HX-20
* VTech PreComputer 1000

===PDAs / calculators===
====Psion====
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Workabout Psion Workabout]
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Siena Psion Siena]
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Psion_Series_5mx Psion Series 5mx]
====Palm====
*[https://wiki.thatoldtech.net/index.php/Palm_Tungsten_T5 Palm Tungsten T5]

*Palm m515
*Palm m500
*Palm m100
*Sony Clié PEG-SJ30

==== Pocket PC ====

* HP ??
* HP ??
* HTC Tytn II
* HTC HD2

==== Others ====

* HP 100LX
* HP 200LX
* Sharp PC-1500
* Sharp PC-1350
* Casio PB-100
* Citizen Data Bank MB-280
* Citizen Data Bank MB-300
* Casio SF-7200SY

=== Video/photo equipment ===

* Blaupunkt RTX-260 portable VHS VCR
* Panasonic F2 CCD camera
* Roadstar CTV-510 6" color CRT TV
* Sony EV-DT1 5" Trinitron CRT TV/Video8 deck combo
* JVC HR-C3EG portable VHS-C VCR
* JVC GR-SX1 VHS-C camcorder
* Sony Mavica FD200
* Sony DSLR-A350

=== Audio equipment ===
* Sony Discman D-303
* Sony GZ- portable Minidisc recorder
* Sony portable Hi-MD recorder
* Sony MDS-JE640 Hi-Fi MD deck
* Yamaha MD-8 multitrack mixer/MD recorder
* Denon DRW-585 dual cassette deck
* Panasonic RQ-S40V portable cassette player

=== Consoles ===

* N64
* Game Gear
* Game Boy Micro

=== The sad corner ===

* Sony MZ-1 MD deck
* Sony Discman D-121
*

Museum

2022-05-08T17:33:21Z

Admin: